In this episode of Two IPs in a Pod, hosts Lee and Gwilym sit down with David Kappos, former Director of the USPTO and a key figure in IP law. They dive into his fascinating career, from his work at IBM to his time in the Obama administration, exploring pivotal moments and key insights. The conversation also touches on the future of IP law in the US, the challenges ahead, and some stories about the most famous people they’ve all met along the way.